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		<title>Comment on Ethnic profiling or good reporting? PM class by Samantha Millard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha Millard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that, at first, news sources should have left the fact that he was Muslim out of news stories until they know why he committed the crime. Later, if sources find out it was part of a terroristic attack, it is okay to publish his religion. In this case, I found it more relevant that he was a psychiatrist rather than being Muslim. I like the headline and picture combination on The Dallas Morning News that is shown on the column for the Maynard Institute. If no ties to terrorists or Islamic extremists are found, I do not think that news sources need to publish his religion. 
	For example, most news outlets would not say that he was Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, or any other Christian religion because it is not pertinent to the story. I think that editors should ask themselves “Is the person’s religion, race, or ethnicity important to the crime that was committed?” Publish the person’s religion, race, or ethnicity if it is related to the crime that happened. 
	The AP stylebook said about the same thing that I did, and to only use religion or race in stories when it is necessary to the story. For example, it was important to include that information for the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. If a white man was going around killing only Mexican women, I think it is important to include the races of those people. If an atheist person went into a Catholic church or any other Christian church, it is relevant to include that information. 
	The story about the Oklahoma City bombing coverage did not change my thinking. I still believe that editors need to ask themselves, “Is race or religion pertinent to the story?” Also, news sources need to be wary to publish race or religion right away, especially when nobody has been named a suspect or no one has even been arrested yet. I feel bad for the Muslims living in America after the Oklahoma City bombings. Because of the media, they were targeted and discriminated against. This should never happen, and news sources should be careful when using race or religion in a story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that, at first, news sources should have left the fact that he was Muslim out of news stories until they know why he committed the crime. Later, if sources find out it was part of a terroristic attack, it is okay to publish his religion. In this case, I found it more relevant that he was a psychiatrist rather than being Muslim. I like the headline and picture combination on The Dallas Morning News that is shown on the column for the Maynard Institute. If no ties to terrorists or Islamic extremists are found, I do not think that news sources need to publish his religion.<br />
	For example, most news outlets would not say that he was Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, or any other Christian religion because it is not pertinent to the story. I think that editors should ask themselves “Is the person’s religion, race, or ethnicity important to the crime that was committed?” Publish the person’s religion, race, or ethnicity if it is related to the crime that happened.<br />
	The AP stylebook said about the same thing that I did, and to only use religion or race in stories when it is necessary to the story. For example, it was important to include that information for the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. If a white man was going around killing only Mexican women, I think it is important to include the races of those people. If an atheist person went into a Catholic church or any other Christian church, it is relevant to include that information.<br />
	The story about the Oklahoma City bombing coverage did not change my thinking. I still believe that editors need to ask themselves, “Is race or religion pertinent to the story?” Also, news sources need to be wary to publish race or religion right away, especially when nobody has been named a suspect or no one has even been arrested yet. I feel bad for the Muslims living in America after the Oklahoma City bombings. Because of the media, they were targeted and discriminated against. This should never happen, and news sources should be careful when using race or religion in a story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethnic profiling or good reporting? AM class by Victoria Grdina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria Grdina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the newspaper should have left the fact that he was Muslim out of it, at least initially. There&#039;s no proof that the motive behind his shooting spree was a religious one, and unless it was, his religion is irrelevant. Had he been almost any other religion, his religious affiliations wouldn&#039;t have been mentioned at all. Adding this piece of information to the story sort of implies that is has some sort of significance in the story, when really it doesn&#039;t. 

However, if it did turn out that one of the main reasons behind his shooting spree was based on his religion, it would be crucial to mention it because it plays a significant role. I think it&#039;s OK to publish information like this when it actually adds something the story or is somehow useful; then it should be mentioned. While it&#039;s important to avoid any kind of discrimination, it would be a mistake to leave out a piece of information that alters the story.

However, when it plays no significant role in the story, I think it only encourages prejudice among people, and can be offensive to many readers, especially those part of the group being named. The negative stereotype attached to Muslims comes from Muslim extremists, and should not be mistakenly attached to any or all Muslims. By noting the fact that this shooter happened to be a Muslim, some might feel it&#039;s almost misrepresenting the religion. So unless it somehow alters the story, it&#039;s not necessary, and is often trickier than it is worth.

I also think something to be careful of is making sure that the facts being given are straight. This can be a sensitive area to report on already, so facts should be double-checked. It shouldn&#039;t be assumed that someone is of a particular ethnic background, because someone could easily be of a different descent than their name or skin implies. Fudging something like this could be a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the newspaper should have left the fact that he was Muslim out of it, at least initially. There&#8217;s no proof that the motive behind his shooting spree was a religious one, and unless it was, his religion is irrelevant. Had he been almost any other religion, his religious affiliations wouldn&#8217;t have been mentioned at all. Adding this piece of information to the story sort of implies that is has some sort of significance in the story, when really it doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>However, if it did turn out that one of the main reasons behind his shooting spree was based on his religion, it would be crucial to mention it because it plays a significant role. I think it&#8217;s OK to publish information like this when it actually adds something the story or is somehow useful; then it should be mentioned. While it&#8217;s important to avoid any kind of discrimination, it would be a mistake to leave out a piece of information that alters the story.</p>
<p>However, when it plays no significant role in the story, I think it only encourages prejudice among people, and can be offensive to many readers, especially those part of the group being named. The negative stereotype attached to Muslims comes from Muslim extremists, and should not be mistakenly attached to any or all Muslims. By noting the fact that this shooter happened to be a Muslim, some might feel it&#8217;s almost misrepresenting the religion. So unless it somehow alters the story, it&#8217;s not necessary, and is often trickier than it is worth.</p>
<p>I also think something to be careful of is making sure that the facts being given are straight. This can be a sensitive area to report on already, so facts should be double-checked. It shouldn&#8217;t be assumed that someone is of a particular ethnic background, because someone could easily be of a different descent than their name or skin implies. Fudging something like this could be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethnic profiling or good reporting? AM class by Erin Starkebaum</title>
		<link>http://editingmatters.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/ethnic-profiling-or-good-reporting-am-class/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Starkebaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Steve Buttry said in his breaking news seminar Friday, any information you get in the very beginning of a situation may be incorrect, even if it comes from top officials. 

 Dr. Daniel Garrett from the University Health Center said that same thing about the H1N1 virus. The media caused a lot of extra panic because information was so unclear in the beginning, he said. 
That certainly was the case with the Fort Hood shooting. The first reports I heard were that a Muslim soldier had opened fire at the base and that three other soldiers were questioned in connection with the shootings but had since been released. I never heard the report that it was three Islamic gunmen in stolen military uniforms like Alan Mutter’s article said was the media’s initial storyline. 

I don’t recall exactly if I heard the gunmen was dead or if I just assumed that, but I remember being surprised to learn he was, in fact, alive. 

I think news organizations have to be very careful and very critical in the early hours of breaking news. They have to question their own systems and decide if they are going to sacrifice accuracy for being the first to report the information. They also need to be careful and do some checking of their own with what officials tell them because they don’t know any more than the media does early on in unexpected situations. 
I doubt the media would have put as much emphasis on religion if the gunmen had been Catholic or Protestant, but those religions don’t have recent history of being at war with the United States either.  So of course the media is going to play it up big that he is a Muslim. 

Taking that angle does not help denounce any stereotypes, however, and the media should have carefully considered the backlash that many Muslims might face in light of their reports. I thought it was good the Dallas Morning News did a story right away Thursday night on local Muslims to make it known they did not support what the Nidal Malik Hasan had done. 

Reporters jumped on the same bandwagon after the Oklahoma City bombing and assumed too quickly Middle Eastern terrorists were to blame. I think since the U.S. has the mentality that everyone is out to get us, we rule out our fellow Americans as the culprits of any major violent out lashes. 

Unless you have good reason to report religion or race or ethnicity in firm connection with a crime and it’s not just speculation, I don’t think it should be reported. Not only does it make the falsely accused look bad, it makes the news organization look bad as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Steve Buttry said in his breaking news seminar Friday, any information you get in the very beginning of a situation may be incorrect, even if it comes from top officials. </p>
<p> Dr. Daniel Garrett from the University Health Center said that same thing about the H1N1 virus. The media caused a lot of extra panic because information was so unclear in the beginning, he said.<br />
That certainly was the case with the Fort Hood shooting. The first reports I heard were that a Muslim soldier had opened fire at the base and that three other soldiers were questioned in connection with the shootings but had since been released. I never heard the report that it was three Islamic gunmen in stolen military uniforms like Alan Mutter’s article said was the media’s initial storyline. </p>
<p>I don’t recall exactly if I heard the gunmen was dead or if I just assumed that, but I remember being surprised to learn he was, in fact, alive. </p>
<p>I think news organizations have to be very careful and very critical in the early hours of breaking news. They have to question their own systems and decide if they are going to sacrifice accuracy for being the first to report the information. They also need to be careful and do some checking of their own with what officials tell them because they don’t know any more than the media does early on in unexpected situations.<br />
I doubt the media would have put as much emphasis on religion if the gunmen had been Catholic or Protestant, but those religions don’t have recent history of being at war with the United States either.  So of course the media is going to play it up big that he is a Muslim. </p>
<p>Taking that angle does not help denounce any stereotypes, however, and the media should have carefully considered the backlash that many Muslims might face in light of their reports. I thought it was good the Dallas Morning News did a story right away Thursday night on local Muslims to make it known they did not support what the Nidal Malik Hasan had done. </p>
<p>Reporters jumped on the same bandwagon after the Oklahoma City bombing and assumed too quickly Middle Eastern terrorists were to blame. I think since the U.S. has the mentality that everyone is out to get us, we rule out our fellow Americans as the culprits of any major violent out lashes. </p>
<p>Unless you have good reason to report religion or race or ethnicity in firm connection with a crime and it’s not just speculation, I don’t think it should be reported. Not only does it make the falsely accused look bad, it makes the news organization look bad as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethnic profiling or good reporting? AM class by Megan Brincks</title>
		<link>http://editingmatters.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/ethnic-profiling-or-good-reporting-am-class/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan Brincks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel split as to whether or not news sources should have identified the suspect in the Fort Hood shooting as a Muslim. On one hand, it didn’t matter that he was. He was an American who did something bad. I don’t think the fact that he is Muslim affected his actions. However, if a news source was told that it was a terrorist attack, and it was possibly thought that he was a Muslim extremist, then his religion is newsworthy. 

If a Catholic walked into an abortion clinic and started blowing the place to pieces, his or her religion would be pertinent to the story. If the same person used violence in a way that was not related to his or her religion, it would not be appropriate to publish a specific religion.

Without knowing the motives of a suspect, I don’t think it is proper to connect them with a group. When there is a relationship between a group and an action, then of course that is something that can be published. But until that motive is clearly determined, news sources should be extremely cautious about what they publish.

Before editors allow a religion to be published in connection with a suspect, I think they should ask if it is necessary to the story. I think they should also try to put their own religion into the same story and see if it would make sense. If it doesn’t, it probably doesn’t need to be published.

I was under the impression that the Associated Press says to only use religion when it is necessary to the story, similarly to race. However, under the “religion” section, they did not provide any guidelines for when and when not to use religious affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel split as to whether or not news sources should have identified the suspect in the Fort Hood shooting as a Muslim. On one hand, it didn’t matter that he was. He was an American who did something bad. I don’t think the fact that he is Muslim affected his actions. However, if a news source was told that it was a terrorist attack, and it was possibly thought that he was a Muslim extremist, then his religion is newsworthy. </p>
<p>If a Catholic walked into an abortion clinic and started blowing the place to pieces, his or her religion would be pertinent to the story. If the same person used violence in a way that was not related to his or her religion, it would not be appropriate to publish a specific religion.</p>
<p>Without knowing the motives of a suspect, I don’t think it is proper to connect them with a group. When there is a relationship between a group and an action, then of course that is something that can be published. But until that motive is clearly determined, news sources should be extremely cautious about what they publish.</p>
<p>Before editors allow a religion to be published in connection with a suspect, I think they should ask if it is necessary to the story. I think they should also try to put their own religion into the same story and see if it would make sense. If it doesn’t, it probably doesn’t need to be published.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that the Associated Press says to only use religion when it is necessary to the story, similarly to race. However, under the “religion” section, they did not provide any guidelines for when and when not to use religious affiliation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethnic profiling or good reporting on deadline? by Rachael Ruybalid</title>
		<link>http://editingmatters.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/ethnic-profiling-or-good-reporting-on-deadline/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael Ruybalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was wrong to include the information that the Fort Hood shooter was Muslim. For one, anyone could tell he was most likely Muslim from his name and two, it did nothing but create suspicion among Americans. 
     If he had been Catholic or Protestant, media outlets would not have released his religion. The media knew that releasing that information would make the story bigger and people would keep watching the news to find out more about the &quot;terrorist attack.&quot; The story was already huge with 12 people being killed and 31 people injured. People would still watch and listen to the news regardless of whether or not the shooter was Muslim. The media did not need to release his religion to get people to watch their show. 
     Like we talked about in class, I think editors should avoid putting someone&#039;s race or religion in the paper unless it is vital to the story( hate crime etc...) or they have other information to release along with the subject&#039;s race/religion. 
     The Oklahoma City coverage didn&#039;t really surprise me at all. People have been making an issue of race and religion from the very beginning of time. It&#039;s in human nature to make assumptions and to be biased on different subjects.A mark of a great reporter/editor, is being able to ignore society&#039;s prejudices and simply tell the truth the way it is, without adding colorful details to get their audience worked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was wrong to include the information that the Fort Hood shooter was Muslim. For one, anyone could tell he was most likely Muslim from his name and two, it did nothing but create suspicion among Americans.<br />
     If he had been Catholic or Protestant, media outlets would not have released his religion. The media knew that releasing that information would make the story bigger and people would keep watching the news to find out more about the &#8220;terrorist attack.&#8221; The story was already huge with 12 people being killed and 31 people injured. People would still watch and listen to the news regardless of whether or not the shooter was Muslim. The media did not need to release his religion to get people to watch their show.<br />
     Like we talked about in class, I think editors should avoid putting someone&#8217;s race or religion in the paper unless it is vital to the story( hate crime etc&#8230;) or they have other information to release along with the subject&#8217;s race/religion.<br />
     The Oklahoma City coverage didn&#8217;t really surprise me at all. People have been making an issue of race and religion from the very beginning of time. It&#8217;s in human nature to make assumptions and to be biased on different subjects.A mark of a great reporter/editor, is being able to ignore society&#8217;s prejudices and simply tell the truth the way it is, without adding colorful details to get their audience worked up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would you run this picture? by Chris Neary</title>
		<link>http://editingmatters.wordpress.com/2009/10/23/would-you-run-this-picture-2/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Neary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue! I reviewed this exact same dilemma in my journalism ethics class last summer. I chose to run the photo because it is a powerful image, and it begs the reader to discover what&#039;s going on there. It makes the reader ask: &quot;what could have the city done to prevent such a freak accident?&quot; Later knowing that it was taken of the slums in Detroit, it sends a powerful message to ANY reader (local or distant) that many of Detroit&#039;s homeless are not finding the shelters to survive a bitter cold winter. Furthermore, it shows that Detroit&#039;s social communion has detiriorated so much, that a homeless person had nowhere to turn. This is especially effective if run on A1. And because of social deterioration, it speaks to the area&#039;s economic issues too.

If anything makes people care enough about &quot;poor&quot; Detroit to fix it, this photo should do the trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue! I reviewed this exact same dilemma in my journalism ethics class last summer. I chose to run the photo because it is a powerful image, and it begs the reader to discover what&#8217;s going on there. It makes the reader ask: &#8220;what could have the city done to prevent such a freak accident?&#8221; Later knowing that it was taken of the slums in Detroit, it sends a powerful message to ANY reader (local or distant) that many of Detroit&#8217;s homeless are not finding the shelters to survive a bitter cold winter. Furthermore, it shows that Detroit&#8217;s social communion has detiriorated so much, that a homeless person had nowhere to turn. This is especially effective if run on A1. And because of social deterioration, it speaks to the area&#8217;s economic issues too.</p>
<p>If anything makes people care enough about &#8220;poor&#8221; Detroit to fix it, this photo should do the trick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would you run this picture? by Alissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initially when I saw the photo I didn&#039;t think it should be ran on the front page, or at all.  It seemed offensive to the family and it made me feel uncomfortable knowing that there was a body frozen in ice. It seemed to me that society would gain no real benefit from seeing the photo. 

After reading the article and column, I realized why the Detroit News ran this photo. The photo depicted the severity of homelessness in Detroit. The photo encourages people and government to become proactive about the issue. The &quot;decay of the city&quot; needed to be addressed and this photo started the discussion.  The image is not too gory or graphic which makes it even more justifiable. 

If Lincoln were having the same issues as Detroit, I would run a similar story about the homeless, but I probably wouldn&#039;t run the Detroit story/picture in the Journal Star because of proximity.

The columnist did a good job of bringing together the issue and shedding light on the bigger picture for Detroit. He made me feel more at ease about running the photo. He brought up unemployment issues, which often lead to homelessness. And with the state of the economy, this could be anyone&#039;s situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially when I saw the photo I didn&#8217;t think it should be ran on the front page, or at all.  It seemed offensive to the family and it made me feel uncomfortable knowing that there was a body frozen in ice. It seemed to me that society would gain no real benefit from seeing the photo. </p>
<p>After reading the article and column, I realized why the Detroit News ran this photo. The photo depicted the severity of homelessness in Detroit. The photo encourages people and government to become proactive about the issue. The &#8220;decay of the city&#8221; needed to be addressed and this photo started the discussion.  The image is not too gory or graphic which makes it even more justifiable. </p>
<p>If Lincoln were having the same issues as Detroit, I would run a similar story about the homeless, but I probably wouldn&#8217;t run the Detroit story/picture in the Journal Star because of proximity.</p>
<p>The columnist did a good job of bringing together the issue and shedding light on the bigger picture for Detroit. He made me feel more at ease about running the photo. He brought up unemployment issues, which often lead to homelessness. And with the state of the economy, this could be anyone&#8217;s situation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would you run this picture? PM class comments by Kevin Zelaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Zelaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo is definitely shocking at first glance but I don&#039;t believe it is offensive enough because it lacks graphic details, to prevent it from being run on page 1. Yes, I would run it on the front page of the Detroit paper because I agree with what the columnist said about it being a public service to run the photo. It would involve a lot more debate and thinking to figure out if I would run the picture on the front page of the Lincoln Journal Star, since it is a smaller newspaper with a much more conservative audience not as desensitized to death as Detroit. Maybe I wouldn&#039;t run it on the front page of the Journal Star, it might be too controversial. 

The columnist brought up a lot of interesting points, like whether or not the police dragged their feet in attending to the frozen body. Keeping the city safe and free from dead corpses is a matter of public concern, so this point was very salient. He also noted some background about the lot where the body was found and how the billionaire who owns the land has a history of letting prime real estate go to waste, which leads to squatting by the homeless. Knowing this is also a matter of public concern and maybe the billionaire owner should be held accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photo is definitely shocking at first glance but I don&#8217;t believe it is offensive enough because it lacks graphic details, to prevent it from being run on page 1. Yes, I would run it on the front page of the Detroit paper because I agree with what the columnist said about it being a public service to run the photo. It would involve a lot more debate and thinking to figure out if I would run the picture on the front page of the Lincoln Journal Star, since it is a smaller newspaper with a much more conservative audience not as desensitized to death as Detroit. Maybe I wouldn&#8217;t run it on the front page of the Journal Star, it might be too controversial. </p>
<p>The columnist brought up a lot of interesting points, like whether or not the police dragged their feet in attending to the frozen body. Keeping the city safe and free from dead corpses is a matter of public concern, so this point was very salient. He also noted some background about the lot where the body was found and how the billionaire who owns the land has a history of letting prime real estate go to waste, which leads to squatting by the homeless. Knowing this is also a matter of public concern and maybe the billionaire owner should be held accountable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would you run this picture? PM class comments by Alain Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I would not run this picture and no, I would not put it on page 1.
After reading the story, my decision has change and I would run this picture.  I would also run it on page 1, especially if it was The Detroit news.  However though, if it were the Lincoln Journal Star, I would not put it on the front page because although it is an interesting story, the picture might turn off people. There is just something disturbing about the picture.  Now, on the other hand, like I said, I would put it on page 1 of The Detroit News because from what it seems, this is a pressing matter in that community and it needs to be brought into light and people need to know about it.  

I really like the columnist views on the picture and how she tied that to the bigger picture of what’s going on in American society right now. I agree with her when she said running that picture was a public service, and the newspaper should get some kind of an award for it. She also states that this is “reality, people; time to wake up and smell your society rotting. We&#039;ve been living, most of us, in a world that has allowed us to mostly insulate ourselves from reality.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I would not run this picture and no, I would not put it on page 1.<br />
After reading the story, my decision has change and I would run this picture.  I would also run it on page 1, especially if it was The Detroit news.  However though, if it were the Lincoln Journal Star, I would not put it on the front page because although it is an interesting story, the picture might turn off people. There is just something disturbing about the picture.  Now, on the other hand, like I said, I would put it on page 1 of The Detroit News because from what it seems, this is a pressing matter in that community and it needs to be brought into light and people need to know about it.  </p>
<p>I really like the columnist views on the picture and how she tied that to the bigger picture of what’s going on in American society right now. I agree with her when she said running that picture was a public service, and the newspaper should get some kind of an award for it. She also states that this is “reality, people; time to wake up and smell your society rotting. We&#8217;ve been living, most of us, in a world that has allowed us to mostly insulate ourselves from reality.”</p>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Lamberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would run this photo on the front page of the Detroit News. This photo, but more importantly, the events leading up to this photo, show how awful times have gotten in the city of Detroit. 
This photo embodies a cry for help from not only the homeless, but people who have lost their jobs and anyone else who has fell on hard times in the city. 
I&#039;m glad both the story and the column mentioned how the cops beat around the bush to even come and investigate the body. 
In my mind, this was a rock bottom moment for the city, but it needed to happen. Sure, the man in the ice has a family and it would be painful for them to see him dead on the front page of a newspaper, but he has become the poster-child for the decay of the city. 
In photography classes, we&#039;re told what images are too graphic to put on the front page, and this one is not so. The image doesn&#039;t show the man&#039;s face or any exposed flesh of that matter; it&#039;s just two feet sticking out of the ice. 
Sometimes people need to see how bad it really is to fully understand what&#039;s going on. I didn&#039;t think the Gulf War in the early 1990s was too violent until I saw the photos that didn&#039;t make it to the newspapers; these were very horrific. 

If this happened in Lincoln, and Lincoln was going through the same economic downturn has Detroit, than I would definitely have to run this photo on the cover of the Lincoln Journal Star. It seems like a disservice not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would run this photo on the front page of the Detroit News. This photo, but more importantly, the events leading up to this photo, show how awful times have gotten in the city of Detroit.<br />
This photo embodies a cry for help from not only the homeless, but people who have lost their jobs and anyone else who has fell on hard times in the city.<br />
I&#8217;m glad both the story and the column mentioned how the cops beat around the bush to even come and investigate the body.<br />
In my mind, this was a rock bottom moment for the city, but it needed to happen. Sure, the man in the ice has a family and it would be painful for them to see him dead on the front page of a newspaper, but he has become the poster-child for the decay of the city.<br />
In photography classes, we&#8217;re told what images are too graphic to put on the front page, and this one is not so. The image doesn&#8217;t show the man&#8217;s face or any exposed flesh of that matter; it&#8217;s just two feet sticking out of the ice.<br />
Sometimes people need to see how bad it really is to fully understand what&#8217;s going on. I didn&#8217;t think the Gulf War in the early 1990s was too violent until I saw the photos that didn&#8217;t make it to the newspapers; these were very horrific. </p>
<p>If this happened in Lincoln, and Lincoln was going through the same economic downturn has Detroit, than I would definitely have to run this photo on the cover of the Lincoln Journal Star. It seems like a disservice not to.</p>
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